The Undergroud Onus
Peace Yo! And thanks for all of you that read this blog over the past 2 years!
"I eat this S#&T up" - Anon GI
Student: "You mentioned earlier that the number of people who
are begining to follow Christ in China and also in India,
.....which is a complete blessing, You've also alluded to, and
other people have said church is "dying" in Europe, or certainly the
number of people following Christ is declining. Two part
question: Whats your opinion about the state of the Church
in the US and is there some larger statement that you could
make about the supposed trends aross the world?Ravi: "Unfortunatly, you may not like what I'm going to say here, I
hope I don't offend anybody. The problem with America today
is not America, its the church. We have become very shallow
as Christians. Very Shallow. We've become masters at
engineering feelings without much thought. There is very
little thinking that goes on in Church. We repeat things.
Parrot things. We have not thought our faith through. We
have not listened to others and thought what their questions
are. Our answers have become very shallow. In trying to
become seeker friendly we have become message unfriendly. We
have no real depth in what we are trying to teach and speak.
Life has got its jagged edges against us and we are giving
simplistic answers. Somewhere we fell into the trap that
believing music is everything....Forgeting it is only one thing.
And teaching and ideas are important. An expendature of words
without an income of ideas will lead to conceptual
bankruptcy. And we are so conceptually bankrupt on this. We
cannot really explain these things. And until our church
wakes up to what our message is. And thinks deeply about
these things. We will slip deeper and deeper into parroting
phrases that have very little difference in our lifestyles.
So, I think that is a problem.""But on the other side of it, there are men and women today,
men and women like yourself and students here who long to
come into the church to think. And if we would only
recognize that and respect that. You know, I've had 12 and
13 year olds ask me more profound questions than many others
ever had and they are not finding answers being given to
them. So that is a reality.""When you look for example at the European scene. Europe is
living under an illusion that it is expelling religion.
Nature arbors a vacum. Europe will not be irreligious for
long. Another religion will take over. And completely
change their culture. And the reason is, the religion that
has been given by choice is being evicted to a religion that
probably doesn't give them a coice. (it)will take over.
Prince Charles has said that when he becomes the monarch he's
going to be calling himself "the defender of the Faiths"
Plural. Rather than "defender of the faith" Well if that is
what he is going to do then England is going to have to
rethink what its future is going to look like. France is in
trouble that way. Germany is in trouble that way.""The world is going to be dramatically effected by two nations
in the next few years: China and India.
I was speaking at Ching Qua University in Bejing to business
scolars and so on. They took me to the forbidden city. Just
contiguous to Tienamen's Square. Walked past it, first
gate... many yards...second gate...many yards...thrid gate,
fouth gate, fifth... And I arrived there and I saw a banner:
"Merry Christmas" While here in New Jersey one woman made it
impossible to play even Christmas tunes at Christmas time
becauset the tunes offended her. I went to Bejing and they
wished me a Merry Christmas in the Forbidden City. These
kinds of things are happening. In Korea the church is really
thriving. Singapore...and India too...alot of response now.""Am I therefore giving up hope for America? No. I think
America's resiliance will come to the fore again.
I was speaking to the floor of the State Legislator of
Florida and its interesting the questions they ask you.
I spoke to the African heads of state and even President
Mugabi, came over and shook my hand. I had spoken on four
thoughts: Eternity, morality, accountablity and charity.
They wanted to talk to me about that.
When I spoke to the United Nations the ambassadors were lined
up and the President said, 'would you like to please come to
my room and pray for us?'
World leaders don't have the answers anymore and I think
America's youth will rise to the occasion and men and women
like you. And students like you, will come through. But it
will have to be a passionate and thoughtful christianity. Not
a mindless emotive one. That has no staying power. I think
it'll happen."